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		<title>Koedinger at 09:37, 22 April 2008</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Things to do to improve:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Things to do to improve:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;- Make more explicit citation to Mayer&lt;/del&gt;&#039;s &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;multimedia principles&lt;/del&gt;, &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;especially &lt;/del&gt;the &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;multimedia principle &lt;/del&gt;and the &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;contiguity principle &lt;/del&gt;(&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;is that there now?&lt;/del&gt;)&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;.  Compare &lt;/del&gt;and, &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;especially&lt;/del&gt;, &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;contrast &lt;/del&gt;the &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;results and theory&lt;/del&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;* The principle as stated does not make a clear contrast.  It has the form &quot;Doing X is good&quot; rather than &quot;Doing X is better than Y.&quot;   Here&lt;/ins&gt;&#039;s &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;the current statement: &quot;Instruction that includes both visual and verbal information leads to robust learning (the development of coherent&lt;/ins&gt;, &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;flexible knowledge representations) when &lt;/ins&gt;the &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;instruction supports learners as they coordinate information from both sources and the representations guide student attention to deep features.&quot;  How about: &quot;Instruction that includes both visual and verbal information leads to more robust learning than instruction that includes verbal information along, but &#039;&#039;only when&#039;&#039; the instruction supports learners as they coordinate information from both sources &lt;/ins&gt;and the &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;representations guide student attention to deep features.&quot; The parenthetic statement seems to &lt;/ins&gt;(&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;re&lt;/ins&gt;)&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;define robust learning &lt;/ins&gt;and, &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;in any case&lt;/ins&gt;, &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;seems worth leaving for &lt;/ins&gt;the &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;more detailed description&lt;/ins&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;- Other projects/studies in the [[Coordinative Learning]] matrix, which are marked as varying the visual-verbal integration, should add this page.  These are the Chinese &quot;Talking Heads&quot; (Liu, Massaro, Dunlap, Wu, Chen,Chan, Perfetti) and &quot;Cotraining&quot; (Liu, Perfetti, Dunlap, Zi, Mitchell) studies.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;* Make more explicit citation to Mayer&#039;s multimedia principles, especially the multimedia principle and the contiguity principle (is that there now?).  Compare and, especially, contrast the results and theory.  Seems the visual&lt;/ins&gt;-&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;verbal integration principle as stated is a specialization of the multimedia principle because of the &quot;&#039;&#039;only when&#039;&#039;&quot; clause.  However, a closer read of Mayer (2001) (and Clark &amp;amp; Mayer, 2004) is warranted to see exactly how he &quot;conditionalizes&quot; the principle -- he may have similar condition of applicability (though likely stated in different words).&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;* &lt;/ins&gt;Other projects/studies in the [[Coordinative Learning]] matrix, which are marked as varying the visual-verbal integration, should add this page.  These are the Chinese &quot;Talking Heads&quot; (Liu, Massaro, Dunlap, Wu, Chen,Chan, Perfetti) and &quot;Cotraining&quot; (Liu, Perfetti, Dunlap, Zi, Mitchell) studies.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Koedinger: New page:  Things to do to improve: - Make more explicit citation to Mayer&#039;s multimedia principles, especially the multimedia principle and the contiguity principle (is that there now?).  Compare an...</title>
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		<updated>2008-04-17T22:20:03Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;New page:  Things to do to improve: - Make more explicit citation to Mayer&amp;#039;s multimedia principles, especially the multimedia principle and the contiguity principle (is that there now?).  Compare an...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Things to do to improve:&lt;br /&gt;
- Make more explicit citation to Mayer&amp;#039;s multimedia principles, especially the multimedia principle and the contiguity principle (is that there now?).  Compare and, especially, contrast the results and theory.&lt;br /&gt;
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- Other projects/studies in the [[Coordinative Learning]] matrix, which are marked as varying the visual-verbal integration, should add this page.  These are the Chinese &amp;quot;Talking Heads&amp;quot; (Liu, Massaro, Dunlap, Wu, Chen,Chan, Perfetti) and &amp;quot;Cotraining&amp;quot; (Liu, Perfetti, Dunlap, Zi, Mitchell) studies.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Koedinger</name></author>
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